A Look At The Assault On The Senses At New York Mets Citi Field…From A Season Ticket Holder

A guest column from reader JMF.

Let me preface my gripe and complaint by saying that I’m 53 years old, and have been a Mets fan since I was a kid, and the reason I offer this fact is that my gripe might simply be generational.

Or said a different way, if you’re 10 or 20 even 35 years old, you would probably think my gripe is that of grumpy old man, whereas those friends and relatives that are over say 40 or 45 totally agree with me.

And the Mets are not the only culprits of my gripe in sports, but you’d think they and old FRED W. would be above it or more sensitive about it.

Also let me say that I am mostly very happy with CitiField, and that I have attended this season a few games at Citizen Bank Ballpark and New Yankee Stadium.

Here is the gripe.

Once upon a time, we the fan could go to a game, and hold a normal conversation with our neighbor, Joan Jarvis was great, so was Eddie Layton (at Knicks games), and as years went by the Mets decided to get rid of the organ and apparently were the first to bring in annoying cheerleading canned artificial cheer music.

Between innings we could talk about the game, or life, and enjoy the baseball game experience.

I recall several years ago at a day game with my cousin there was a rain delay at Shea, and on the big video screen was an out of town meaningless game, and the sound was so loud that would couldn’t communicate.  An out of town game in a rain delay caused us discomfort, how could that be?  Who was in charge?  Were we the only people in attendance that were numbed by the experience?

And as time went by, most noticeably in the past few years, the Mets created what I call the MAKE NOISE Department, which, if you look in the Mets Media Guide is called the Broadcasting/Entertainment & Video Productions department lead by Vito Vitiello and perhaps as many as three or four other employees who are in charge of all the non-baseball audio and video, during the game.. there is a video guy, a computer graphics guy, and so on, guys who are paid to make my life as a fan an unpleasant experience.

As years have gone by, their power has increased, their presence ever greater, to the point now where I prefer it when the visiting team is up, so nice, so mellow, just baseball….

As a season’s ticket holder I was real excited about the new CitiField Experience, and recall the exhibition game against the Red Sox, which had the non-baseball artificial canned horrible noise toned nicely down, but was so disappointed on Opening Day to learn that my fears were realized.  They were back.

I had started to write a letter to Fred Wilpon about how it was hard to understand how someone who revered or appeared to rever the days of baseball glory, could or would allow such an assault of the aural senses.  In the letter I asked Fred if he had ever been to a game at Fenway or Wrigley, the last bastions of tranquil baseball, and so on, but a local new york sportswriter that is well respected wrote me back and said that my letter was too sarcastic and I never sent it.

So this year, while the Make Noise Department has cut back on the horrific Kevin James Let’s Go Mets Cheer, which apparently scared adults and kids alike, and Chris Rock and Tom Seaver video cheers, it has “stepped up” other noise.

BTW, I have no gripe with the Mets deplorable between innings races and promos (because I understand that it has to do with direct revenue generation to satisfy sponsored obligations…), my gripe is the non-sponsored cheering music, player intro music, closer music, which while it sounds better acoustically than at Shea, is still obnoxious and overdone.

Am I the only one that feels this way?  I know I’m not as I’ve occasionally heard from others on the Mets website message board.

So if I’m not specific enough, here they are…

First of all, who decided that the Star Spangled Banner should now be played 20 minutes before the game?  Wasn’t that kind of a nice traditional thing that would evoke a fan roar leading to the Mets taking the field?

Second of all, who decided and now decides  that the player music should last more than three or four seconds and should be played really loud?  Why do I have to hear, for example, Carlos Beltran’s song LOUD every time he’s up for ten seconds.  How about the fourth time, cutting it short?

Who decided and who decides how frequently we should have to hear cheers between pitches, which clearly increases when the Mets have a man on base, and increases as the game gets into the later innings…  Things have gotten so bad now that if the Mets have men on in the 8th inning, we can now be assaulted between EVERY PITCH!!!!

WHO DECIDED that if the Mets hit a home run that there should be HOME RUN music so loud that it overwhelms the cheers of the fans.  Even though I’m now going into obsessive land now, I can tell you that I was listening to the Mets at Fenway a year or two ago, in my car, and the Red Sox hit a homer, and know what I heard??  The crowd, roaring, delighted, just the roar of the crowd, no idiot music.

Is there any possibility that cheering music suppresses or represses a crowd?  I find that Mets fans tend to make a better Let’s Go Mets cheer when it’s not prodded or prompted.

Oh, and am I more or less likely to MAKE NOISE when prompted?  What about you?  Does that get your blood going?

What is this MAKE NOISE obsession in sports?  Did a marketer do a study to show that sponsors will spend more money when the fans are like sheep, following a video board’s desperate begging?

Is it better at the New Yankee Stadium and at Citizens Bank in Philly?  YES, it is better, it is not as frequent and desperate and LOUD.

I had hoped that Fred and Jeff would have toned it town, made it more like an old park.

NOPE.

As far as the visual assault?  Doesn’t bother me as much, I don’t have read the ads, but it’s hard to avoid the assault on my ears.

Again, if you’re 25 years old, you’d probably not know any different and think I’m a nut.  If you’re 50 or 60 years old, who knows?

J

I’ve touched upon this from time to time and totally agree.  One of my favorite stadium experiences was at Fenway Park about 15 years ago when they had nothing but organ music.    Haven’t been there since so I don’t know how it is now.    Sometimes the home run is enough to make us clap, you know?  I don’t need scream for a 1 and 0 count.

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2009 Reminds Me Of the 1987 New York Mets

Kids, let me tell you about the 1987 Mets.   We were fresh off a World Series with a young team, clearly on our way to three or four rings…what could go wrong.

Unlike this 2009 team, the position players were fine.  It was the pitching staff that couldn’t stay healthy…and by the time it was late summer we were rooting for a rotation that included 21 year old John Mitchell (my memory remembers him being better than his 3-6 record), Don Schulze, Tom Edens, Terry Leach (11-1!) and some kid named David Cone.

What happened to the big 5 from 1986?  That’s why the Mets lost.

In April we had our youth (and our dynasty) taken away from us with Dwight Gooden, 60 wins in hand at age 21, tested positive for drugs and was suspended.    There goes the ace.

In late April this David Cone guy had his first start (as recapped by the Times):  Usually, a manager will not let a pitcher stay in, especially his first major league start, long enough to get the whipping Cone endured. But, Johnson said, ”You don’t like to hang him out to dry, but he’s going to be starting so he needs to be stretched out and our bullpen is short.”


On May 22nd you find yourself in 5th place, and Bob Ojeda is gone for the year:




”We will have to live with what we’ve got,” he (Johnson) said. ”We lose Dwight Gooden, and it’s a great loss. But it’s also an opportunity for David Cone to become a big-league pitcher. We lose Bob Ojeda and it’s a great loss. But it’s an opportunity for John Mitchell to become a big-league pitcher.”
Then June comes and the strangest thing happens.   You didn’t expect it at the time, and you kids probably don’t even know this.   Tom Seaver almost came back to the Mets for a third go-around.
The Mets said last night that they would hold a news conference today, at which they will announce an agreement with Seaver, a 42-year-old free agent who has spent the first two months of the season at his home in Connecticut.
Speaking from his home, Seaver said he would be at Shea Stadium for the 10:30 A.M. news conference, but added, ”I’m not confirming or denying anything.”
The Mets, who traded Seaver to Cincinnati in 1977 and left him unprotected in the 1984 free-agent compensation pool, had shunned the pitcher from the time he announced last season that he would retire unless the Chicago White Sox traded him to a team close to his home. The White Sox traded him to Boston, but the Red Sox failed to re-sign him when he became a free agent last November. Series of Injuries
Now the 20-year major leaguer has become attractive to the Mets because they have encountered a series of disabling pitching injuries to Bob Ojeda, who is out for the season following elbow surgery; David Cone, who is not expected back before September because of a badly broken little finger on his pitching hand, and Rick Aguilera, who is on the disabled list with a sore elbow.

Unfortunately, Tom Terrific couldn’t get anyone out and gave up before he embarrassed himself on the mount.  Disappointing, but the right call.

Tom Seaver stood in Shea Stadium yesterday and made it official. He announced that he was ending his 16-day comeback and his 20-year career in baseball, and said farewell with the thought that ”I can say for the rest of my life, I got every ounce out of it.”
”In my heart,” he said, ”I feel the time has come for me not to play anymore. I’ve used up all the competitive pitches in me. I want to thank the New York Mets for giving me the opportunity to find that out.”
The Mets gave him the opportunity when they invited him to pitch for the team for the third time since he arrived as a rookie in 1967 and became the symbol of the club’s rise to success. But this time wasn’t the right time. At the age of 42, after a nine-month layoff with a bad knee, George Thomas Seaver struggled through three practice games and then decided it was time to leave. Uncharted Future.

Now it’s June and the manager is calling John Mitchell “indespesnable” 
”Mitchell has got to be the key to this team,” Manager Dave Johnson said. ”We’ve lost four starting pitchers, we’ve gone through some rough times. He had some rough luck today, but he’s capable, and he indispensable to us the way our rotation has been shot through.
Here’s a great recap from August 22 1987 in the Times.
This is Johnson’s master plan for survival:
* Sid Fernandez, disabled for three weeks with a sore left shoulder, will return and pitch tonight against the Padres. To make room for him on the roster, the Mets will farm out John Mitchell, one of several rookies who became emergency replacements this season. Mitchell will return to Tidewater, which has a seven-game lead in the International League.
* Rick Aguilera, disabled for nearly three months with an inflamed right elbow, will return and start Monday night’s game against the Los Angeles Dodgers. He has recently pitched three times for Tidewater, and threw for 15 minutes in the Shea Stadium bullpen last evening. Johnson’s verdict: ”He was exceptionally sharp.”
* David Cone, the rookie who was disabled for nearly three months with a fractured finger, will rejoin the rotation and start Tuesday night’s game against the Dodgers. He will replace Terry Leach, who won 10 games and lost only one this season in the dual role of reliever and emergency starter. Leach will return to the bullpen on an aching right knee (torn cartilage). ”It’s no secret.” Johnson said, ”that I like him better in the pen.”
Not mentioned there are McDowell (6 weeks with a hernia) and Darling (the final three weeks with torn ligaments in his hand).

The season eventually comes down to one day.   Before 9/11 “September 11th” meant something else to Mets fans.   (I’m not making light of 9/11 – but 9/11/87 is ingrained in your brain any time you hear the words Terry Pendleton).
The Mets had clawed back all summer.   They had hunted down the Cardinals, were about to catch them, had a lead, and Dwight Gooden was pitching tomorrow.   After all this, we’d finally be just a half game from first place – with Doc pitching!   The New York Times will take it from here…
It was the opening round of the battle for first place, and it sizzled for 3 hours 40 minutes before a sellout crowd of 51,795 fans in Shea Stadium. And the Mets seemed in absolute command, especially since the Cardinals had generated only one hit in eight innings, and that was a bunt by Vince Coleman.
But with the crowd standing and howling for the kill with two down in the ninth, the Cards nailed Roger McDowell in a stunning sequence: Willie McGee singled for one run and Terry Pendleton hit a home run over the center-field fence for two more and a tie. And in the 10th, they nailed Jesse Orosco with singles by Coleman, Ozzie Smith and Tommy Herr, and the Mets suddenly fell two and a half games behind with 22 to go.
That sentence will never do the pain justice.  It wasn’t quite being on the wrong side of Buckner but it was close.  This one hurt.  I was at Shea that night, and it was absolutely stunning.   In the bad way.
The next day Gooden stunk up the joint and gave up five runs in the first.
We didn’t realize it yet but the dynasty was over.   The stories after the season had Davey Johnson managing just one more year (1988) then leaving.  The Davey watch had begun – the rap on him being that he was too soft on his players.   Buddy would come in, have half a good season and then the wheels came off this franchise until Piazza showed up.  23 years later we’re still waiting for that World Series.
So kids, that’s the 1987 Mets for you.  Don’t feel so bad if you see a bunch of rookies and no-names in the lineup tonight.   The Mets have had it far worse.
Next time I will tell you about the time the Mets went 10 and 1 against the Dodgers in the 1988 regular season.

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Good Lupica About Yankee Stadium

Mike Lupica had two great observations about Yankee Lemon Stadium over the weekend.  (Maybe they could claim to be honoring former manager Bob Lemon and say it is named after him).

Right now I don’t know if I can do anything about the wind,” Trost said a few weeks ago.
Well, it might work that way now with the Yankees, but it’s sure not the way it worked when somebody – George Steinbrenner himself – was actually in charge of things. Steinbrenner used to fire managers and general managers and team presidents and P.R. guys and even secretaries for sport. You don’t think the old windbag would have fired somebody for wind?


Read more:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/05/24/2009-05-24_new_yankee_stadiums_home_run_barrage_should_be_an_easy_sell_for_yankees.html?page=1#ixzz0GTCLODIA&B




I still think the solution to the moat/autographs situation is for Rubenstein to put out one of those George Statements like back in the day.   They can just write it, they probably always did…and just start with some made up line from George like “I have been away for too long and…”

The other great point by Lupica is that the Yankees have stopped drawing 50,000.   Wait til next year when nobody goes.

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Most Popular On New York Mets Police (Updated May 24)

I hope everyone is enjoying the holiday….here are the most popular articles on Mets Police for the last week.  As always I mix them in with a few things that I think deserved better….

Tops this week were the Mets Uniform Survey Part One and Part Two.

Here’s what I learned from the survey.

The survey came out just after I wrote some tips to Help The Mets Ditch The Black Uniforms

Cool Mets Blogs You Should Check Out

Howie Rose ripped the black uniforms again.


The biggest reaction of the week was to Vegas Rich’s Thumbs Down To ESPN and it was clear he wasn’t the only one who was annoyed at Steve Phillips.

I get called names but I think the Mets could use Davey Johnson’s help, but not how you might think.

Seaver’s 300th Win

Save Yankee Stadium Gate 2

Jeter Doesn’t Get It (New Stadium)

Always popular are the Citi Field pictures which includes a collection of obstructed views.  Folks also like seeing what it looks like inside the Acela Club and inside the Caesars Club at Citi.

Finally, here are some cool Mets blogs you should check out.

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Save Yankee Stadium Gate 2


This is tremendously important.  Those of you east of the Hudson probably don’t check out nj.com.

Yankee Stadium is about to become a ghost under the current plan, but before it does, several concerned fans are fighting to preserve something.

They want to save Gate 2, the most complete piece of the pre-renovated stadium that still exists, and turn it into an entrance to the parks and ballfields that will soon occupy the land.


“We need to keep it from getting torn down,” Costello said, and nobody can be sure how much time they have before that happens, or who exactly in the city is willing to help them.
They have reached out to Frank McCue, the stadia project manager for the city’s Parks and Recreation department, with their proposal. McCue did not return a phone call seeking comment this week, but his office issued a statement that said the current design for Heritage Field did not include Gate 2 but would incorporate “existing elements into the park design to commemorate the old Yankee Stadium.”
“The plan includes orienting the southern ballfield in the same alignment as the old Yankee Stadium ballfield, creating a tree-lined walking trail that outlines the perimeter of the old Yankee Stadium, and incorporating historical plaques and markers,” the statement reads.
In other words, another ballpark will be torn to the ground, another stinkin’ plaque will be put in its place.

Read the entire piece here.  It’s very interesting and a great idea.  It would be a shame to knock down every last inch of the old place.

Maybe if the blogs make a lot of noise we can help.

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